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June 25, 2010, 01:06:15 PM
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I could listen to him all day

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A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
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I must admit, he is lovely and I have heard him in person several times, but I haven't listened to him since the last time I heard him in which he said God told him to leave his wife.


June 25, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
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really............. oh no........ :(

I've been 'googling'  trying to find where he said God told him that. Can't seem to find it. I just found this.  I didn't know about his personal life, I do like his teaching though.

"As for Graham's marital situation: Heather divorced him, she had a statement on the Vacaville Mission site that stated that this was not to due to any adultery on either parties part but a decision she had made.  My understanding was that she has had major issues with depression and I believe was unhappy moving to the US.

Graham's remarriage took place several years after the divorce"

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Heather told him that if he left the UK to live in America, she would divorce him.  Her mental state at that stage was such that she was too fragile to emigrate.

He told us, in 1997 or 1998, in a conference in England, that God had told him basically to put the ministry above his wife and move to the states anyway.  It really, really jarred in my spirit.  Since then I simply haven't listened to him.


June 26, 2010, 02:31:51 AM
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I have never heard of this guy. What does he teach?

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Just looked him up. Interesting stuff.

The marriage thing is interesting. I have been reading a book called God's Generals which Has biographys of people such as aimee semple macpherson, smith wigglesworth, kathryn kuhlman, etc. So many of them at some point seemed to have had some kind of relationship breakdown, often leading to scandal and usually divorce. Do you think it's a deliberate attack from the devil to try to discredit their ministries or perhaps the individuals loosing the awareness of the importance of giving time to nurture relationships as well as ministering?

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June 26, 2010, 08:19:32 AM
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Wow, I didn't know that about his poor wife.  How utterly devastating for her. 
How could he he desert her, and blame God for that, then go on to teach everyone about love!  :shrug:

Sigh.  Scares me sometimes how the "most prophetic" people seem often to miss God in such obvious things, yet we're meant to believe their wilder messages? Hmm hmm hmm.



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Just looked him up. Interesting stuff.

The marriage thing is interesting. I have been reading a book called God's Generals which Has biographys of people such as aimee semple macpherson, smith wigglesworth, kathryn kuhlman, etc. So many of them at some point seemed to have had some kind of relationship breakdown, often leading to scandal and usually divorce. Do you think it's a deliberate attack from the devil to try to discredit their ministries or perhaps the individuals loosing the awareness of the importance of giving time to nurture relationships as well as ministering?

I think you're on to something.
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@ Heather.

I think it is more simple than that.  People who are mightily used by God often forget that they are people.  This message may help:

http://treeoflifechurch.weebly.com/religious-pride.html


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I know this a very old thread, and I contemplating not commenting.

It breaks my heart to read some of the comments about this man and his  ministry, which I stumbled across while looking for more or his material on line.

We don't know what went on in his life, or the life of his wife, we don't know what their marriage was like, or who left who.  We can only speculate and make assumptions.... but should we?  Is that the way we would want to be treated?

We are not called to judge them.

Where do you draw the line on who you listen too post sin?

I mean.... every teacher/preacher I have ever come across still sins. 

Just because some behavior is more obvious than another..... ah but I forgot we have unspoken sin hierarchies don't we?

Do you read the Psalms?   How about Song of Solomon, the Proverbs, Ecclesiastes?  Many of those in the Hebrews 11 hall of fame, where hardly spotless.

It would be such a shame for you to miss out on the nuggets of gold this man teaches about, because you can not look past something that Jesus dealt with on the cross.

It would be a shame to miss out on the amazing insights he has, because you consider his sin (?) bigger than the grace already bestowed upon him by Father God. 

We need to be very careful not to throw babies out with the bath water.  No body is making anyone believe anything, you are called to sift everything you hear, but just because there are faults with in the prophetic realms (like any other, pastoral not excluded), doesn't mean it doesn't have it's place and calling to and within the body.

I do think heatherfb made a poignant observation, and I think it would be more beneficial of and to the body if we prayed for those in positions of influence that the relationships would be greatly protected.

If his life/ministry is truly reflective of what he teaches, God has restored to both of them, that which the locust has eaten, because he is a redemptive God.

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Here are statements from both Graham and Heather about what transpired:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050828001324/http://www.grahamcooke.com/newsletters/cooke_statement.htm

"Love ... is ever ready to believe the best of every person" -- 1 Corinthians 13:7 (Amplified)


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it's odd that they feel so differently about going to the US; i can't blame the man for doing what he believes God told him to do, no matter what the cost, and the same goes for his wife of course - i can't help but believe that one of them has missed God on this, as i don't believe it would be God's will for a Christian married couple to split, especially over ministry direction


btw - i didn't notice that this was an older thread at first and thought PastorZub had come back - has anyone heard from him lately?
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